Midlife Shifts for Independent Aging with Dr. Spencer Lalk - Interview
Dr. Lalk 00:00
You’ll definitely have to hang in there with me because all this morning I was actually in Spanish class. I’m actually right now living in Medellin, Colombia, and pursuing a dream of mine to always become bilingual. So all this morning, I was in an intensive Spanish class. So now I’m transitioning my brain back to English and then to you. So, yeah, that’s something exciting going on in my life. But I’ll be entertaining you here in a moment.
Lisa Arendell 00:26
I’m excited about that.
Dr. Lalk 00:27
Dr. Lalk shares in Spanish.
Lisa Arendell 00:28
That’s amazing. Okay. Well, that’s why I ask because you just never know where you are and what you’re doing. I knew you were out of the country. But I didn’t know that. That’s what you were doing and pursuing right now. Good for you. That’s incredible. Thank you. Okay, I really want to kick this off by just you and I talked about this the other day, but tell everybody listening. What is your passion? Like? What gets you out of bed every morning to make your feet hit the floor and run? And do? What fill in the blank?
Dr. Lalk 00:58
Wow, it’s a loaded question for sure. But I think if we were to break it down about what I am most passionate about, it’s really about getting, or empowering the people to really take control their health, and to make sure if they’re going to take one thing and make sure they don’t take it for granted. It’s their movement, right? Because when it comes down to it, a lot of people we focus on how do we live longer lives. But I have now seen so many people in hospitals and clinics and nursing homes that can no longer move no longer get themselves out of bed, and they’ve lost after mobility. And for me, they’re not really living. And I’ve heard many of them telling me that say this is not a life they want to be living. So what I found working in hospitals, seeing countless amount of patients is that there are often times where we can find people before they get to that point, and really help point them so that they can take control and really make sure that they maintain their mobility for as long as possible.
Lisa Arendell 02:02
I love that. And you know, something you said just resonates so deep within me, you said, you know, we see people living into very, very old age, but they’re not necessarily thriving. They’re not really living, you know, to extend our lifespan, okay, but if we’re doing it in a body that is just ready to go, that that’s not really living. And so I love that what you just said was what we want to do, basically, is prevention. So is that is that why midlife is a focus for you? Because that’s where you see the tipping point start to happen.
Dr. Lalk 02:42
Yeah, yeah, definitely. So you know, when I am in the hospital treating patients, I’m more on the recovery and the rehab side of things. But what I was noticing, after listening to countless amount of stories, I all real, I realized that so many of them at some point earlier in their life had an opportunity to choose one way or the other. And a lot of the times they chose the wrong path, right, they immediately went for medications, they immediately and for injections and surgeries, and then got funneled down this health care system that is so important, but also can be so damaging at the same time. Right? So what I found is that you know what, thinking, Well, how do I find these people? And who do I need to find before it’s too late. And what I found is sure people’s in their 20s and their 30s. Like myself, the truth is, is that you can get away with things more when you’re younger, you know, your body regenerates at a quicker rate. And you know, do you want to still be mindful those things? Absolutely. But it’s really when you get into your 40s, your 50s and your 60s, where you know, your body may be slowing down a little bit. But then you’re also just dealing with so much in your life, you may be having an aging parent that you’re worrying about, you’re still managing your career, you’re managing your house, maybe even you’re growing kids. So it’s really a unique time in life where there’s so many things pulling people in different directions that oftentimes they neglect themselves, which can be so so harmful. So you know, that’s kind of my goal is to kind of find those people and hopefully help educate and empower them to get in the right direction.
Lisa Arendell 02:02
I love that. And you know, something you said just resonates so deep within me, you said, you know, we see people living into very, very old age, but they’re not necessarily thriving. They’re not really living, you know, to extend our lifespan, okay, but if we’re doing it in a body that is just ready to go, that that’s not really living. And so I love that what you just said was what we want to do, basically, is prevention. So is that is that why midlife is a focus for you? Because that’s where you see the tipping point start to happen.
Dr. Lalk 02:42
Yeah, yeah, definitely. So you know, when I am in the hospital treating patients, I’m more on the recovery and the rehab side of things. But what I was noticing, after listening to countless amount of stories, I all real, I realized that so many of them at some point earlier in their life had an opportunity to choose one way or the other. And a lot of the times they chose the wrong path, right, they immediately went for medications, they immediately and for injections and surgeries, and then got funneled down this health care system that is so important, but also can be so damaging at the same time. Right? So what I found is that you know what, thinking, Well, how do I find these people? And who do I need to find before it’s too late. And what I found is sure people’s in their 20s and their 30s. Like myself, the truth is, is that you can get away with things more when you’re younger, you know, your body regenerates at a quicker rate. And you know, do you want to still be mindful those things? Absolutely. But it’s really when you get into your 40s, your 50s and your 60s, where you know, your body may be slowing down a little bit. But then you’re also just dealing with so much in your life, you may be having an aging parent that you’re worrying about, you’re still managing your career, you’re managing your house, maybe even you’re growing kids. So it’s really a unique time in life where there’s so many things pulling people in different directions that oftentimes they neglect themselves, which can be so so harmful. So you know, that’s kind of my goal is to kind of find those people and hopefully help educate and empower them to get in the right direction.
Lisa Arendell 04:14
I love that. And you know, I call it the fatal flaw because when we’re in our 20s and our 30s and we can manage those things, you know, in our body is more resilient. There’s still times you know, kids are little and we’re newly married, and then kids are getting a little older and life gets busy. And if we aren’t focused on our help back then we’re always thinking and I just know this because I’ve been working with clients for over 30 years. Well, when the kids are little older well when I go back to work well when they move out of the house what and the longer we kick that ball down the road. There’s always something else waiting for us always because life just never slows down. Would you agree?
Dr. Lalk 04:56
I really couldn’t have said it better myself. You know, it’s It’s amazing the amount of justification that we can do to neglect our own self care, right? And we can come up with every reason in the book, but yet not realizing that the more we justify inaction, the worse that we’re leaving ourselves. And the truth is, is that yeah, oh, you may see yourself as being a selfless person, because you’re trying to care for everyone around you. But in my mind, you know, you, you can’t care for those people. If you can’t care for yourself, if you’re not healthy, you’re not going to be able to do it for a long period of time. So realistically, the most selfless thing that you can do is actually be a little selfish and just care for yourself, first and foremost, so that you can continue to care for those around you.
Lisa Arendell 05:41
This is why you’re here, we are so aligned. I literally was just saying this, the other day to both of my clients, and I think I even put it on social media are literally our number one priority in life. When people say what is your number one priority, what we want to say is, oh, my, my kids, my husband, my wife, my job, no, those all have to be further down the road, if our health is our priority, which on the surface level feels in sounds very selfish. But if that is not our number one job, our number one priority, everything else that flows down the hill, is just that it’s downhill, it’s harder. And so if we want to serve, which we do, if we want to help, if we want to be there for our kids, or spouse or grandkids one day, we’ve got to take care of this vessel now and then and then everything else will fall into place. Right?
Dr. Lalk 06:31
Absolutely. And you know, that’s why, you know, I admire you so much, because you’re someone that it’s been very clearly, you know, you’ve had to go through issues yourself. And yet you continue to make the choice, you’re continuing to make the choice of prioritize, care, so that you can maintain that amazing energy that you have, and then to continue to be an amazing wife and, you know, just friends to everyone around you. So I think it’s absolutely amazing. And it’s a huge reason why I admire you and what you do.
Lisa Arendell 07:02
Thank you, Spencer, appreciate that so much. You know, something that you have highlighted in the past, on your, on your social is your grandmother. And that literally lit me up? Can you talk for just a minute about about her?
Dr. Lalk 07:23
Yeah, absolutely. So my grandmother, who unfortunately is no longer with us, she passed about a year ago, but was an incredible, incredible woman. And, you know, she always had a real zest for life. And something that she always made very clear, is that she made sure that she did her exercises every single day. And it was so cool. And I felt so lucky, you know, especially going into the field of physical therapy, where, you know, we’re giving people the gift, the movement, but I mean, how lucky am I to have a grandma that has no background in any of that, but already knows that she needs to prioritize her exercise and her movement in order to stay healthy and moving. And that’s exactly what she did. She was she she lived up to 96 years old. The end, she was moving around, independent and able to do what she wanted to do, and really with a minimal pain. And that wasn’t by accident, it was because she committed and she just built the habit into her life, where she would just very simple it was 10 to 20 minutes per day. And then once it became a habit, it was automatic for her. And we automatic, but it was something that she had a sense of pride in. And it was something that we really bonded about. And so always you know, I’d always asked her how our exercises would going and she would give me demos and I was really happy that I kind of make that video with us both there. That’s something that I’m going to cherish for a long time where she showed me her exercise routine that she’s done for over 1000 straight days. And if that doesn’t show commitment, if that doesn’t show the power of habit then I don’t know what else does.
Lisa Arendell 09:03
Absolutely, she was such an inspiration and every time you would you know you’d put that over 1000 days consistency. Man I would share that to my story and I love I love her her picture of healthy you know, 96 years old was healthy to the end able to move to the end and isn’t that how we all want to go just healthy and then the next day we’re not here anymore, like fully mobile and living life to the fullest. Thank you for sharing her with us because she she was beyond an inspiration to us. I can only imagine what that was like for you to get to to get to share that. I wanted to get into a couple things that I personally hear and I bet you do too. And I would love to know your response if someone let’s say someone is listening to us right now. Their 53 year we have a 53 year old woman her kids are older she’s getting close to In an empty nester if not already one, and she says to you, that sounds great, Spencer, but I’m too old, what would be I’m too old to start, I’ve let things go to this point, what would be your advice to her?
Dr. Lalk 10:14
It’s a great, great point. And, you know, I, unfortunately have heard this more than I would like to hear it. And you know, if there’s anything it is never, no matter the age you’re at, it is never too late. Even if you’ve been, if you’ve been away from movement and exercise for years, even decades, it is never too late to get started. And the idea of getting started and getting back to something can be seem really daunting. And it is that daunting feeling is that prevents us from actually taking action and getting into it. Well, this is what I actually in my my signature midlife reset program where I went in from 40 to 60 years old, to really get back to moving and taking control of their body is the steps more digestible things where you just start, just initiate that habit of taking care of yourself starting to get moving, and then you get ready to get used to it and you say that bad, and to overtime, and watch how your body can still adapt. It’s still resilient. And it’s amazing the results that I’ve seen.
Lisa Arendell 11:28
That’s so perfect. And I love that you just said the word progressive, because that’s what I want our listeners to understand is that the two words you said also daunting, when when we are so overwhelmed when it when moving forward, we don’t exactly know what that looks like. Seems so daunting, we stall we pause and the longer we pause, the older we’re getting, and things, it’s just maybe a little bit more difficult to pick that ball up and run with it, although it’s never too late. So what what Spencer was just saying about understanding when you work with someone who will take you progressively, this is not about Okay, now it’s time to get fit, go hit the weights and go do hit training and go do go run three miles. That’s I think a lot of time, what people assume they have to go from couch to all the things, but that’s not it. And that’s not safe. So progressing into into more mobility into a healthier lifestyle and doing it in a way that safe. That is what I want you to be hearing today. So that that overwhelm we can get rid of that. Okay, what would you say to the same woman who’s listening? And she’s saying, well, all of that sounds great, but my life is too insane. You just don’t understand. I don’t have time, what would you tell her?
Dr. Lalk 12:51
You know, that is probably the number one thing I hear is that you do not have the time. And really, I come back and say, really, you don’t have the time not to do it. Because if you continue to avoid it, then eventually it’s going to catch up to you. Right. And that’s where you are at a huge crossroads right now where it’s like, you can continue to neglect yourself thinking that you have no time for yourself. And if you continue down that path, then unfortunately, I’m not going to sugarcoat it, it’s not a direction, it’s not a life that you’re going to want to be living, right, the pain is going to increase, your immobility is going to increase. And then you’re gonna have to start needing help from the people around you, rather than you being the one helping people. And that’s what no one wants that life. Right? So instead, it’s about reprioritizing, what’s important in your life, I understand. Overwhelming, right, but by taking a step back, maybe seeing what can I reprioritize and really moving yourself to the top of that category. That’s what they need. And then in addition, we know same with this progressive idea that we’re talking about is that you just got to start simple. And that is exactly what the program that I have. And and when I worked with many clients my recommendations as you start with just 10 minutes per day, like everyone, no matter who you are, can find 10 minutes in your day to start doing something for yourself and from your body. And like we said, from there, you just build that habit. And then from there, you’re gonna find Oh, wow, my body actually feels good as I’m starting to stretch and exercise and whatever it may be. And then you’re gonna start getting a little addicted to it, you’re gonna start craving it and then you’re going to be like, You know what, I need to add a little bit more of this to my life. And then as you add it, not only does your strength improve, but so does your energy and then that frees up extra time to really take on those other things that are filling up your life.
Lisa Arendell 14:39
Amen. I could not agree more. I would love for you to explain mobility. When I talk about mobility and I’ve talked about it more and more over this past year as I’ve seen my clients age with me as I’ve seen followers, you know, now 40 to 60 You know a lot of them in that age group. When They hear the word mobility. A lot of times people say, Oh, so you mean, I just need to stretch more? Or I need to go do yoga? Although those can help. Can you explain what you mean by mobility and even more specifically, mobility conditioning, when you say someone needs to work on their mobility? Give us give us what that means to you.
Dr. Lalk 15:21
Absolutely, for sure. So, you know, when when mobility can have a lot of definitions at its core, it’s literally just moving from point A to point B, right? But when we talk about mobility in the sense of how do we incorporate it into an exercise routine, and I want to be clear that one exercise routine doesn’t need to be forever. Really, when it comes down to it, if you want something to be sustainable, it needs to be something that you enjoy, right? So you need to find something in your life that incorporates moving around, you find that true, you incorporate that into your program, okay. But when I talked about mobility, I talked about this really the optimal workout. And, you know, people like you said, they often think, oh, I can stretch it, and then I’ll feel better. And it’s stretching important. Yes, stretching is great for you, it helps relax our muscles, it can help improve joint range of motion. However, if that is not reinforced with a proper strengthening program, then you are putting yourself at risk of re injuring yourself, right. So incorporate mobility and stretching, absolutely. But you also want to make sure that you’re incorporating strengthening into your program, because that’s really what adds the ability to your joints, to really prevent the risk of reoccurrence to having that injury happen again. And then the third component is you do got to make sure that you’re adding some cardio component, right? Something that elevates your heart rate, right. And like, for me, I enjoy playing soccer for you. You’re an amazing dancer, right? Both are amazing for us both elevate our heart rate and are incorporated in our mobility routines. So it’s really kind of finding what works best for you. But making sure that it’s well rounded by the combination of stretching, strengthening, and where you’re elevating your heart rate.
Lisa Arendell 17:04
I love that that’s a great assessment of the word and hopefully it helps everybody kind of get get that more rounded idea of what it means. It’s it’s it’s a robust word that has been thrown around more and more now. But I feel like there’s so much confusion around it. So that was super helpful. I wanted to go back to what you just said about strength. Let’s camp out there for just a moment because this is something I am still fighting in 30 years in health and fitness is helping women understand because it there’s such a focus on weight loss, that strength, strength, having skeletal muscle, what that does for you, as you age, I would love to hear from you. Why strength? Why is that so important? Why is Why is building skeletal muscles so important, and ever increasingly more important as we get older?
Dr. Lalk 17:59
Yeah, absolutely. If I were to say, what’s the most important thing, it would definitely be building the strength and elevating the heart rate. For sure. For strength itself, it has so many incredible benefits. And especially we’re talking people in their 40s 50s and 60s, you know, and then we talk, especially women, they are at higher risk for something like osteoporosis, right. And so when you have those brittle bones, or those bones that maybe not as dense as they used to be one of the single best ways, the single best ways is to rebuild that bone strength is with stress not only to the muscles within the bones that it attaches to, and then our body has this amazing system where it can lay down new bone and actually lead to a higher density and stronger bones. So it is so so important. In addition, having stronger bones, it’s going to help our having stronger muscles, more skeletal muscle, it’s going to help support our joints. So it’s going to have less wear and tear. And it’s going to make us more reactive, right. So oftentimes, what I see is that people when you’re when you age to become at a higher risk for falls, and when you incorporate strength training into your program, you are going to become more reactive, which is going to reduce your risk of falling. But say you do fall, then it also is going to reduce your risk of having something like a fracture, which can become a big issue.
Lisa Arendell 19:20
Absolutely. And you know, looking at it from the perspective of what helps you remain independent and functional. We’re not talking about gaining a two foot vertical, most of us don’t need one. What we need is to be able to move our body from point A to point B through space in a way that we that we feel good that we have good balance that we can prevent a fall but even if we have to take a fall for whatever reason that we can actually bounce back from it. And just this whole idea of functional fitness, you know what you do and what I do Who is trying to help people age in a way that is going to help them get up off of a chair by themselves get up off of the floor by themselves. These are things that we all want, not just now. But when we’re at for all honest, we would love to be doing that my father in law is 90, and he can get up off the floor by himself. It’s it’s incredible. And I love that, but it’s because he never stopped moving. He didn’t retire and sit, he kept moving. So that functional level of fitness is what I want to help people understand as well is that this isn’t about, you know, for me what I the pushback I often get is, but I don’t want to be in a bikini competition. This isn’t about that. This is about helping you gain strength, so that you can move through life for as long as God has you here. And in a body that feels good and functions the way it was meant to all the way up to the end. So yeah, what do you have that same kind of I don’t know, we’re, you know, we are in different fields we we both deal with, you know, people who need our help, physically. But with you being more on the rehab side, do you ever get that kind of pushback as well?
Dr. Lalk 21:16
Yeah, absolutely, definitely get that kind of pushback. You know, a couple of things on that, when it comes down to it, you’re right, this ship comes from, you know, how I want to look like, of course, we all want to look good, we want to lose weight, it feels good to do that. But the more important things, especially as we age, and I’ve noticed with my clients is that they care mostly about their quality of life. And that’s what it comes down to every single thing that they should be doing. It should be to enhance the quality, not the quantity, the quality of your life, right? Because the higher quality of your life, that’s what we want that while the time we have here on Earth, we want the highest quality as possible for ourselves, for our family and for our friends, right. And so by incorporating and committing to these kinds of things, that is what’s going to allow you to do so just like you know, I think you said it was your father in law. When it comes when it comes down to it, he makes a choice every single day, right? And he’s developed that habit, right? And now it’s become more consistent. It’s just part of his day to day life. And the beautiful thing is that I’ve seen is that people really that have built that habit and become consistent where they’re moving on a daily basis. Can we ever guarantee that someone’s not going to injure themselves? Of course not. Absolutely not. However, I can say is that the people that do injure themselves are the ones that back that bounce back so much quicker, it’s a night and day difference are the ones that took care of themselves before the fact the ones that are incorporating the strength training, the mobility, elevating their heart rate, it’s amazing what can happen is you know, whether they they have a fall and have a fracture, or even if they had a stroke or heart attack. So many things, it’s very, very clear, it’s a very clear correlation of the ones that took care of themselves before are always the ones that recover quicker.
Lisa Arendell 23:00
Absolutely. And, you know, we’ve we’ve said this before, in this in this program, we’re going to say it again, it is never too late. However, the earlier you implement these things, the sooner you you take those 10 minutes a day at least starting there, then the easier it’s going to be as you get older, it’s it’s you know, when someone who is 80 years old, it’s not too late for them to start to improve their health. However, if you’re 40 years old, and you start now, it’s just going to be easier. So just you know, I want I want people to understand that, because life gets busy, because every phase of life we enter, there’s something else waiting on us. You said it a while ago, you can’t afford not to prioritize your time, you can’t afford to not have time and everybody does have 10 minutes today. I would love to get super practical for the next few minutes and give our followers and you’ve given us so many gold nuggets already. But if you can just three takeaways. Okay? If you do nothing else, after listening to this episode, do these three things to start improving mobility, longevity, and even more than longevity just help span so that you can age in a body that feels amazing. Can you give us just maybe three takeaways off the top of your head?
Dr. Lalk 24:26
I love it put me on the spot. I know right? So first and foremost is we talked about this earlier is about finding joy. What do you find? What do you enjoy and life that incorporates movement? Right? Is it something that you did in the past? Is it something you’re currently doing? It’s it’s something you want to get better at whatever it may be. That is your point of of fulfillment, right? And you want to make sure that you can do that for as long as possible or do whatever you can to get back to that. So by doing saying, Okay, I found what finds me joy, I’m going to add or enhance that in my life. beautiful, perfect first start. Second is saying, You know what, I am going to prioritize myself right now there is no one in this world that’s more important than me. And that is not selfish to say saying, You know what I’m going to do whatever it takes to make sure that I’m going to be holistic in my care, take care of my body, so that I can have the most the best quality of life as possible. And then the third is that don’t be afraid to ask for help. Right? You don’t know what you don’t know. And stop thinking that you have to do everything by yourself, or you have to know all the answers right? Reaching out to someone like Lisa, by reaching out to someone like myself, we’re we’re happy to have a dialog to see even if we would be a good fit for you. Right, you’re still going to take away something, we’re we’re going to help point you in the right direction. I do it for myself, I hire coaches, and consultants and got to go to different professionals all the time, because they are the experts in their field. And I have, you know, kind of some come to that I quit thinking I can do everything myself. And it has drastically changed my life. And I can just say, I hope that you can do the same. Don’t be afraid there’s no shame in reaching out and knowing that it is something that can really change your life forever.
Lisa Arendell 26:10
Wow, those are great, I’m just going to reiterate that. So three, three things. If you do nothing else after this episode, find something that brings you joy. Not only is that a great starting place, but it’s going to, it’s going to be something you want to continue doing. And consistency is really, really key. Second, prioritize yourself. And third, don’t be afraid to ask for help those. Those are some great, great tips right there. Spencer, and I would love to, you know, hear a little bit more. Let’s just take a couple minutes to talk about your your program for people in midlife. And then we’ll we’ll make sure everybody knows how to find that find you. So tell us just a little bit about what you do in that.
Dr. Lalk 26:54
Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah, so it’s called the midlife reset. And basically what it is it’s designed for, you know, not only women, but mostly women are in the program that are between 45 and 65 years old. It’s definitely not for everyone, it’s really those women, not the ones that enjoy going to the gym, because, you know, really, the program is not designed for them. It’s the ones that really want to find a way to get back moving. But really from the comfort of home. You know, they’ve already admitted that they need to do something however, they don’t know what to do, and they don’t have the proper guidance or accountability. So that’s where this program comes into play, where it is a simple to follow step by step format for them that they can do without equipment they can do in the comfort and privacy of their home. And then also includes live coaching calls with me where we can problem solve together, figure out whatever we need to do to make sure to progressively add to their program, overcome pain, answer any questions that they have. And then also keep them accountable to keep them on track. Because when it comes down to it, accountability can be really helpful when you have an accountability partner. And then as over time, it’s amazing to see what these women have done. You know, I’ve now have women have gone through the program that are now running five K’s that weren’t doing anything before, now able to get on the ground with their grandkids out hiking with their partners and really just regaining the gift of movement. It’s for me, I genuinely love what I do. And I feel so grateful that I had the opportunity to work with so many amazing people. Well, it
Lisa Arendell 28:25
shows it shows that you love what you do and you’re good at it and you’re good at conveying I’ve just watched you evolve over the past I don’t know year or however long I’ve been following you and you just your message is so clear. It’s hard to show in 20 to 32nd clips, how to how to how to change you know, your your, the way you sit or how to help. Maybe a hamstring injury, I saw something you did with a pillow that was it was almost like mimicking traction if you don’t have any traction device. You have just really done so well to to help people in these short form videos as well as what you’re doing in your program and your career. But if you guys are not following Spencer, go ahead and tell us all the ways that people can connect with you on social website, anything else and I’ll be sure to link it all in my show notes.
Dr. Lalk 29:20
Sure, absolutely. You know, the two main ways you can reach out to me on Instagram, my handle is loc health. My last name is the LOC L A L K and then health. Feel free to reach out to me there I’m fairly active. But then you can also send me an email where either me or someone on my team will get it. You can email me at info at Dr. loc.com and we will do our best to get back to you. And like I said oftentimes we are happy just to get on a call. See if we can help point you in the right direction. Maybe you’d be a great fit for us. If not maybe you’re a great fit for Lisa’s program. But regardless reaching out and seeing if you have an option is really the way to go.
Lisa Arendell 29:59
Amazing Thank you for all that you’re doing really just to change to change people’s health to help people understand how to age amazing that they have a choice that there’s help available for them. And just for being so, so entertaining and helpful in your rails, I’m telling you guys, you’ve got to go follow him on Instagram. He is. He’s just so incredible at what he does. So thank you for that. And thank you so much for being here today.
Dr. Lalk 30:28
Lisa, it is absolutely my pleasure. And you know, I totally hear what you’re saying about yourself. Because, you know, I love your page. I’m hoping to get some dance lessons from you one day because I have two left feet. I definitely want to learn for sure. And I just think it’s so amazing. I love the energy you bring it’s so it’s so fun and I would love to be able to do that. So I appreciate you and so happy that we got the opportunity to connect.
Lisa Arendell 30:54
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